ArticlesBase.com - Free Articles Directory
Free Online Articles Directory
25.07.2008 Sign In Register Hello Guest
Email:
Password:
Remember Me 
forgot your password?


What To Say To, "Is This A Pyramid Scheme?"

Author: Kim Klaver Author Ranking Silver | Posted: 23-06-2006 | Comments: 0 | Views: 134 | Rating:  (50) Article Popularity - Green (?) Got a Question? Ask.
Sign Up Now!

On a call yesterday following the pyramid post, people wanted to know what to say if, they're presenting the business or product, someone pops the question,

"Is this a pyramid?"

Before you brainstorm over your winning comeback, how about a quick check to see whether 1) your company acts like one or not, or 2) if you are acting like one (without realizing it, of course)?

Here's the question we discussed:

1. Is your business all about recruiting?

If so, you are acting like a pyramid, according to Rushkoff's book, Coercion:

"a pyramid scheme is...[where] the need to subscribe newcomers outweighs whatever benefits the products or system has to offer. Many MLMs sell distributorships more than cosmetics [name your product or service - KK]."

Yes of course you want to recruit reps - but if that's all you do, you are in the pyramid zone, because you give the impression that the product and customers don't matter, except to sell distributorships.

Everyone quickly re-evaluated what they were doing to be sure they weren't coming across like that.

All could see how a fixation on doing 1. above might give someone else the impression that "Yep, there goes one of those pyramid schemers."

After a quick review of 9 different company pay plans (of distributors on the phone) it became clear - it's true what the recruiters say: "There's no money in customers. All the money's in the recruiting."

Company owners decide where to put the money they pay their reps. Say a network marketing company pays out to the field, 50% of what it takes in. They have complete disgression on how to divide that up - between paying for recruiting and amassing customers (for those companies that make the recruiter/customer distinction - and some don't.)

So, how much were companies paying for getting customers (who were not also distributors)?

On product orders ranging from $85-120, some people reported getting paid from 0 - 7%. In one company, they got nothing on those customer orders if they hadn't reached a certain position in the company based on their sales; and for other companies, the reps reported getting 5 or 6% for orders of $100. (A few paid more. List to be posted soon.)

Five bucks for a hundred dollar customer order?

There are much easier ways to make money than that!

However, for recruiting, we got much higher returns. With sign-up bonuses and fast start bonuses of $50-350 or more, for orders ranging from $300-1000.

Who else wouldn't rather make $50 than $5 for making one sale? Big money in selling distributorships (which may include products). Versus getting just customers.

So yes, companies whose pay plans are weighted so much to recruiting are acting like a pyramid. Worse, they make their reps look like it too, since they want to get the most return they can for their time, and would rather make $50 than $5. Who wouldn't?

Well, as they say, if it quacks like a....

Oh. What to say to that question, "Is this a pyramid" (or 'one of those things')? One option (we discussed several):

Let me tell you what we do, and you can call it whatever you want ok?

PAUSE

We market products directly to consumers, people like you and me, and we also find people who want to do that with us. You think you could do that if I showed you what to do?

(That's from the Truth book.)

And yes, there are other options...for another post...send in yours that have helped. (Use 'Comments' below).

Rate this Article: Current: 0 / 5 stars - 0 vote(s).

Article Tags: MLM, Marketing, Kim Klaver, Klaver

Article Source: http://www.articlesbase.com/affiliate-programs-articles/what-to-say-to-is-this-a-pyramid-scheme-36822.html

Print this Article Print article   Email to a Friend Send to friend   Publish this Article on your Website Publish this Article   Send Author Feedback Author feedback  
About the Author:

Kim Klaver is Harvard

Submitting articles has become one of the most popular means of generating quality backlinks and targeted traffic to your website. Join us today - It's Free!

Article Comments

Comment on this article Comment on this article
Your Name
Your Email:
Comment Body
Enter Validation Code: Captcha


Related Articles

Should I Lead With The Business Or The Product?
By: Kim Klaver | 17/06/2006 | Affiliate Programs
That's a popular question. Some people insist you lead with the business (and they tell you to offer the product as a last resort only if the prospect says No to the business); others say they'd rather lead with the product.

If It Quacks Like A Pyramid...
By: Kim Klaver | 22/06/2006 | Affiliate Programs
Who gets the Pyramid Quack award? On our conference call the other day, people wondered how to talk and act so that people would stop asking "Is this a pyramid/one of those things?" One way is to stop, forever, saying and doing the things that evoke thi

Do You Make This Mistake Recruiting Women?
By: Kim Klaver | 06/10/2006 | Affiliate Programs
Women tell me that the biggest reason they contemplate quitting is because they don't think they can say and do what they're being taught to – even when their upline is a woman. Here's a stark example of something like that.

Do People With Scripts Do Better?
By: Kim Klaver | 19/10/2006 | Affiliate Programs
Some people say use scripts when talking to prospects. Others say scripts make you sound stiff and well, scripted. Some say get a good ice-breaker, and you're good to go.

Buzz Marketing - Is It Word Of Mouth (WOM)?
By: Kim Klaver | 17/06/2006 | Affiliate Programs
Some people say that they're the same - word of mouth and network marketing.

Peddlers, Strawberries And Motives...
By: Kim Klaver | 23/06/2006 | Affiliate Programs
Most everyone earns a living doing something - working for an organization or peddling something. We are the peddlers. That is, all of us who have something remarkable (we hope) for others.

Everyone Will Want This Product - It Sells Itself
By: Kim Klaver | 07/10/2006 | Affiliate Programs
Have you ever heard that line? When you do, you'll know the speaker is either ignorant or fibbing. So you're being fooled, at best. THERE IS NO PRODUCT FOR EVERYONE.

It's The Gory Story
By: Kim Klaver | 19/10/2006 | Affiliate Programs
Why does prospecting seem to be so hard in our business today? A skeptical market place is one thing. And that's partly the result of marketers everywhere making promises and more promises that they don't keep.

Got a Question? Ask.

Ask the community a question about this article:

Frequently Asked Questions

Reasons to Shop through Shop to Earn
By: bwritr | 14-07-2008
What is the advantage of shopping through someone else's Shop to Earn web portal? For example, if someone who shops online anyway did not want to own a website or otherwise invest in Shop to Earn, what would motivate them to shop through my site rather than just shop as they do now?

Nobody can answer this question.
By: JGgotogirl | 11-07-2008
What is the market size in the United States for tactical flashlights? How many are sold each year? How many are sold to police, military, security personnel and other relevant protective services?

Where or how could i become a promoter of NYC in Japan and vise versa?
By: euro777 | 11-07-2008
Hello How would one become a promoter of New York City for Japanese people living in Japan. I live in New York, but my wife is Japanese. I also love Japan and love to travel there but i do live in New York. Working as a promoter would be ideal work for me( better than working in restaurant) Thank you all in advance urmas mollerson

PR or Marketing???What is more ...
By: arllyn | 10-07-2008
PR or Marketing???What is more creative????

Scm review
By: anil kumar | 10-07-2008
can rising petrol price can destroy the supply chain management concept

Phorm illegal interception also copyright of websites visited.
By: illegal | 03-07-2008
You have a child with their own computer, this child is not the ISP account holder a webwise page pops up this child spots the name webwise and associates this with the BBC program he uses at school so clicks to allow. This child has just been allowed to alter the T&C of the ISP account while under the age of being allowed to give informed consent, The ISP now is profiling a minor without parental consent, changed the customers T&C without his verifiaction. Would this fall into invaision of privacy since the person consenting was mislead by false advertising yes Phorm selected an alreadyb known and trusted name by children used by the BBC. 1. Would this be breaking the law? 2. Why does the account holder have to verify wioth password to login or even talk to the ISP about anything but a child can change the T&C without any way to verify it is the account holder? 3. Interception of the browser is illegal so how can Phorm suceed without breaking the law? 4.Websites you visit all have copyright you can visit but are not supposed to copy, proccess for material gain this phorm will do who wil pay the website owners for breaching their copyright? 5. Why will phorm not follow the robots.txt for its own instead of googles? 6. With such as google I can delete cookies and any tracking they are doing is stopped, with phorm it is on my connection so can never turn it off 100% have tot ake the word of one person who has no reputation since he has been hijaking browsers illegally for years would you trust this knowing that?

Q&A Powered by:
Powered by Yedda 

Latest Affiliate Programs Articles

Elements That Make Up a Good Affiliate Program
By: James Slader | 25/07/2008
The number of affiliate programs out there is as numerous as the number of affiliates clamoring to sign up for them. You want to make sure that the affiliate program you choose is right for you and for your bank account.

Choosing the Amazing Myesell for Your Free Shopping Cart or Free Online Shopping Cart
By: Vikram kuamr | 25/07/2008
There are many variations of the free online shopping cart out there. The trick is in choosing the free shopping cart that best suits your needs.

5 Useful Tips for Participating in Affiliate Programs
By: Gary Zivkovich | 25/07/2008
It is essential to select the proper advantage of selection of the proper affiliate program to get the advantage of selection of proper program.

Benefits of Myesell as a Free Online Shop Builder to Create Your Own Free Online Shop
By: Vikram kuamr | 25/07/2008
Myesell makes it very easy for anybody—even the most techno-phobic among us— to avail of their free online shop builder.

Using Myesell as the Shopcreator for Your E-commerce Store
By: Vikram kuamr | 25/07/2008
As a common user of modern technology, reading the words “PHP4+MyQ-

Avoid These Affiliate Marketing Pitfalls
By: David Barker | 25/07/2008
Affiliate marketing programs are now the preferred online business model for many people on the internet. A lot of the setting up work normally associated with an online business is already done. You do not have to source products or set up pricing structures. There are so many advantages yet why are so many affiliate marketers failing to reach their income goals?

Proven Traffic Generation: Start Your Own Affiliate Program
By: Andrew Shiveley | 25/07/2008
This is to all of you Internet all-stars out there who want to learn how so much money is being made on the web. There are numerous reasons that would make you want to join affiliate programs. Most people join because they give you the opportunity to make money, which as good a reason as any.

How to Use Wordpress Marketing to Your Advantage
By: Seree Woradechjamroen | 25/07/2008
A lot of people are marketing online nowadays and there are tons of different options when choosing a platform for promoting your products or services. A really effective strategy that I have found which has made me thousands and thousands of dollars is called WordPress Marketing.

More from Kim Klaver

And The Leading Cause Of Stress Is...
By: Kim Klaver | 30/03/2007 | Marketing
"Reality is the leading cause of stress among those in touch with it." - Lily Tomlin Compare two lists of ten ways to cut back on stress. List #1. Top item: Find An Outlet - A hobby, like fishing List #2. Top item: Be passionate - About how your work improves people's lives Which...

The Great Players Of The World.
By: Kim Klaver | 30/03/2007 | Marketing
Doug Rushkoff ("Get Back in the Box") is not the only one who insists that the work one does can and should indeed be something YOU so enjoy that it feels like play - not something to be "compensated for" because it's so dreadful, and so non-motivating that you only...

More Women Giving Up Work Outside The Home
By: Kim Klaver | 29/03/2007 | Marketing
The New York Times reported that women are "stretched to the limit" raising a family and working outside the home, and that they are choosing to stay home more these days, after four decades of marching to work. "Most of us thought we would work and have kids, at least that...

What Else Could Come Stuck To A Pop Bottle?
By: Kim Klaver | 29/03/2007 | Marketing
So, you're looking for innovative ways to introduce your product and not be just another one of the hundreds out there? How can you stand out? Here's a unique idea cooked up by a college student in Australia. She wanted to introduce a new little magazine, and wanted to bypass the usual...

For Love Or Money?
By: Kim Klaver | 29/03/2007 | Marketing
On a call the other night, one gal said she was changing companies because the one she was with wasn't paying enough for amassing customers, which is what she wants to do in her networking business. She's one of those who likes to find a product she loves, and then get...

Did We Fall Out Of The Box?
By: Kim Klaver | 28/03/2007 | Marketing
In his delightful and thought provoking book, Get Back in the Box, Doug Rushkoff explains how so many American companies have become the faceless, soulless things we love to hate. When there's no one running the show that loves doing the thing the company is supposed to do best, e.g. make...

How Would You Improve It?
By: Kim Klaver | 28/03/2007 | Marketing
You have ideas. Ideas about what can be done to improve Network Marketing. For example, what do you think can be done to: 1. Improve its image. 2. Improve the results you are (not) getting. 3. Improve how they pay you. 4. Make it so it's more fun to do it. 5. Attract better people. These are...

On Language Women Hate...
By: Kim Klaver | 09/03/2007 | Marketing
Even though the business of direct sales and network marketing is made up of 80% women, the language used in front of the room and on websites, in autoresponder emails and everything else from corporate and upline is basically male. Business as the art of war. Language such as "We're going to...

Article Categories






Give Feedback

Sign up for our email newsletter

Receive updates, enter your email below