In Bible versus Quran: the flesh is flesh; and the Spirit is spirit

<h1>In Bible versus Quran: the flesh is flesh; and the Spirit is spirit</h1>Author: <a title="Prof.dr. Ibrahim Khalil" href="http://www.articlesbase.com/authors/prof.dr.-ibrahim-khalil/14726.htm">Prof.dr. Ibrahim Khalil</a> The Sons of the Lord God in Bible versus Quran (20) This is the 20th article (and the last one) of the series: "The Sons of the Lord God in Bible versus Quran"   The Bible says that the Lord Jesus said no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again of water and the Spirit and that which has been born of the Spirit is spirit. The Noble Quran says that the Spirit belongs to Allah's knowledge, about which you know not. Also the Quran replies the disbelievers who claim that the Angels are God's daughters; and also, the Quran answers the dualists who claim that Satan is Allah's partner.   It is interesting that the Bible claims that the Lord Jesus said that the wind blows wherever it pleases, you hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from and you cannot tell where it goes. From the scientific point of view, winds are plotted on surface weather analyses indicating the direction the wind is blowing from as well as its strength, and over much of the globe wind speeds are measured over a ten-minute time frame. Wind direction is reported by the direction from which it originates and where it goes with the use of weather vanes. Everyday, the "Weather Forecasts" on TV, radio, newspaper etc. determine precisely the direction of the wind, where it comes from and where it goes. Hence, the Bible initiates an important question: Has the Lord Jesus refuted the climatology and the Wind Advisory? Has the Lord Jesus denied the Weather Forecasts? As a matter of fact, I do not believe that the Lord Jesus said that; He knows better than the Scientists. --------------------------------------------------------------------   The Sons of the Lord God in the Bible (20)   The Bible (John 3:1-8) says: Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him." In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again."  "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!" Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.  You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.'  The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." --------------------------------------------   John 3:1-8 (King James Version) 1There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.   ===================================================   The Sons of the Lord God in the Quran (20)   The Noble Quran says that the Spirit is of the command of Allah; it belongs to His knowledge, about which you know not. Also, the Quran answers back the disbelievers who claim that the angels were God’s daughters by asking them many sensible questions. In addition, the Quran replies the dualists who claim that Satan is Allah's partner in that Allah created the good things while Satan created the evil ones. Then, the Quran says that Allah exonerates Himself from the lies they attribute unto Him.  He is exalted, above what they attribute to Him in the way of His having a child or a partner. Essentially, the Quran decisively forbids saying that Allah has a son. It is not befitting for the Majesty of Allah to take to Himself a son. Allah is exalted, magnified; He is above what they associate with Him of son or partner.  Allah is far transcendent above all that they ascribe unto Him! In Islam, this point is very important faith wise. <ol> <li>Basically, it is unforgivable sin to say or to believe that the One Almighty Creator [who is Allah or God or the Lord or Jehovah or whatever name(s) you are giving Him] has a son or Sons.</li> </ol> From the Islamic point of view, the conclusion of this essential topic that may establish or tear down the faith is that: Any one who believe that the Almighty Creator has a son or Sons; he corrupts and spoils his faith and he is considered as a disbeliever; and in the afterlife he will dwell in the eternal fire. Any one who believes that the Almighty Creator has no son or partner, he has a good faith and he is considered as a believer; and in the afterlife, he will dwell in the eternal paradise.  Verses 17:85 and 37:149-159 of the Noble Quran (respectively) make the topic of the Spirit and the son(s) of God plain, clear and understandable. --------------------------------------------   The meanings of verse 17:85 The background of the verse It is narrated that some members of the Jewish ruling council went to the Prophet Muhammad and asked him: O Muhammad, what do you say about the Spirit? They asked him this question to know if he is a true or a false prophet.  Muhammad kept quiet. Then a revelation was coming to him. Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse (17:85): "They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been vouchsafed but little”.   The meaning of the verse 17:85 And they (that is, the Jews) will question you O Muhammad, concerning the Spirit, from which the body receives life. Say, to them: ‘the Spirit is of the marvels of my Lord; the Spirit is of the command of my Lord, that is, it belongs to His knowledge, about which you know not. And of knowledge you have not been given except a little’, relative to His knowledge, exalted be He. ------------------------------------------------------   The meanings of verse 37:149 Before Islam, the ignorant disbelievers among Arabs used to hate having female girls and they preferred having sons, also, they used to kill their female because they think that it is shameful to have females and it is an honor to have sons. On the other hand, they claim that the Angels are God's daughters!  The verse says: So ask the disbelievers (O Muhammad): are daughters to be for your Lord, after their claim that the angels were God’s daughters, while sons are to be for them? Do you wish for Allah what you do not wish for yourselves? "That is to say, the best (as they think) are exclusively theirs?   The meanings of verse 37:150 Or did Allah create the angels females as you claim while they were witnesses to the act of Allah's creation? Were they present thereof that they might then say such a thing?   The meanings of verse 37:151 Lo! It is indeed out of their [own] mendacity, their [own] lies, it is of their falsehood) it is due to their denial that they say,   The meanings of verse 37:152 God has begotten’, for they claimed the angels are Allah's daughters. And verily they are liars, in what they say.   The meanings of verse 37:153 And again of their falsehood, Has Allah preferred daughters to sons?   The meanings of verse 37:154 What is wrong with you? How do you judge? It means that you consider having female an evil and shameful although you choose for Allah what you would not accept for yourselves,   The meanings of verse 37:155 Will you not then remember? Will you not then reflect? Will you not take heed from what you say? That Allah, glory be to Him, is exalted above having a child?   The meanings of verse 37:156 Or do you have a clear warrant, a Scripture stating that the angels are Allah's daughters? Do you have a plain definitive proof that God has a child?   The meanings of verse 37:157 Allah said: then produce your scripture, and show Me that the angels are Allah's daughters in it, if you are being truthful, about this statement of yours.   The meanings of verse 37:158 And the disbelievers have set up between Allah, exalted be He, and the angels a kinship, by saying that they are God’s daughters, while the angels certainly know that the disbelievers shall indeed be arraigned, into the Eternal Fire, to be chastised therein. It is also said that this verse was revealed about the dualists who claimed that Satan is Allah's partner in that Allah created the good things while Satan created the evil ones; However, the angels know well that the disbelievers who claim that will be brought before Allah and will be chastised in the Eternal Hell.   The meanings of verse 37:159 Glorified be Allah, He exonerates Himself from the lies they attribute unto Him.  He is exalted, above what they attribute, to Him in the way of His having a child or a partner. ===============================   Verses 17:85 and 37:149-159 of the Noble Quran in one translation (YUSUFALI):   Verse17:85 (YUSUFALI Translation): they ask thee concerning the spirit (of inspiration). say: "the spirit (cometh) by command of my lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (o men!)" -------------------------------------------------------------   Verses 37:149-159 (YUSUFALI Translation):   Verse 37:149 Now ask them their opinion: is it that thy lord has (only) daughters, and they have sons?-   Verse 37:150 Or that we created the angels female, and they are witnesses (thereto)?   Verse 37:151 Is it not that they say, from their own invention,   Verse 37:152 "Allah has begotten children"? but they are liars!   Verse 37:153 Did he (then) choose daughters rather than sons?   Verse 37:154 What is the matter with you? how judge ye?   Verse 37:155 Will ye not then receive admonition?   Verse 37:156 Or have ye an authority manifest?   Verse 37:157 Then bring ye your book (of authority) if ye be truthful!   Verse 37:158 And they have invented a blood-relationship between him and the angels: but the angels know (quite well) that they have indeed to appear (before his judgment-seat)!   Verse 37:159 Glory to Allah! (he is free) from the things they ascribe (to him)! ========================   Back to my question to the smart and interested reader: Is the Quran quoted from the Bible?About the Author: Professor Dr. Ibrahim Khalil
Prof. of Clinical and Chemical Pathology,
Head of Clinical Microbiology and Infection Control Unit,
Ain-Shams University.
Cairo, Egypt.
And,
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The Sons of the Lord God in Bible versus Quran (20)

This is the 20th article (and the last one) of the series:

"The Sons of the Lord God in Bible versus Quran"

The Bible says that the Lord Jesus said no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again of water and the Spirit and that which has been born of the Spirit is spirit. The Noble Quran says that the Spirit belongs to Allah's knowledge, about which you know not. Also the Quran replies the disbelievers who claim that the Angels are God's daughters; and also, the Quran answers the dualists who claim that Satan is Allah's partner.

It is interesting that the Bible claims that the Lord Jesus said that the wind blows wherever it pleases, you hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from and you cannot tell where it goes.

From the scientific point of view, winds are plotted on surface weather analyses indicating the direction the wind is blowing from as well as its strength, and over much of the globe wind speeds are measured over a ten-minute time frame. Wind direction is reported by the direction from which it originates and where it goes with the use of weather vanes. Everyday, the "Weather Forecasts" on TV, radio, newspaper etc. determine precisely the direction of the wind, where it comes from and where it goes.

Hence, the Bible initiates an important question:

Has the Lord Jesus refuted the climatology and the Wind Advisory? Has the Lord Jesus denied the Weather Forecasts?

As a matter of fact, I do not believe that the Lord Jesus said that; He knows better than the Scientists.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

The Sons of the Lord God in the Bible (20)

The Bible (John 3:1-8) says:

Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said, "Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him." In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again." "How can a man be born when he is old?" Nicodemus asked. "Surely he cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb to be born!" Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, 'You must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."

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John 3:1-8 (King James Version)

1There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

===================================================

The Sons of the Lord God in the Quran (20)

The Noble Quran says that the Spirit is of the command of Allah; it belongs to His knowledge, about which you know not.

Also, the Quran answers back the disbelievers who claim that the angels were God’s daughters by asking them many sensible questions.

In addition, the Quran replies the dualists who claim that Satan is Allah's partner in that Allah created the good things while Satan created the evil ones.

Then, the Quran says that Allah exonerates Himself from the lies they attribute unto Him. He is exalted, above what they attribute to Him in the way of His having a child or a partner.

Essentially, the Quran decisively forbids saying that Allah has a son.

It is not befitting for the Majesty of Allah to take to Himself a son.

Allah is exalted, magnified; He is above what they associate with Him of son or partner. Allah is far transcendent above all that they ascribe unto Him!

In Islam, this point is very important faith wise.

Basically, it is unforgivable sin to say or to believe that the One Almighty Creator [who is Allah or God or the Lord or Jehovah or whatever name(s) you are giving Him] has a son or Sons.

From the Islamic point of view, the conclusion of this essential topic that may establish or tear down the faith is that:

Any one who believe that the Almighty Creator has a son or Sons; he corrupts and spoils his faith and he is considered as a disbeliever; and in the afterlife he will dwell in the eternal fire.

Any one who believes that the Almighty Creator has no son or partner, he has a good faith and he is considered as a believer; and in the afterlife, he will dwell in the eternal paradise.

Verses 17:85 and 37:149-159 of the Noble Quran (respectively) make the topic of the Spirit and the son(s) of God plain, clear and understandable.

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The meanings of verse 17:85

The background of the verse

It is narrated that some members of the Jewish ruling council went to the Prophet Muhammad and asked him: O Muhammad, what do you say about the Spirit? They asked him this question to know if he is a true or a false prophet. Muhammad kept quiet. Then a revelation was coming to him.

Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse (17:85):

"They are asking thee concerning the Spirit. Say: The Spirit is by command of my Lord, and of knowledge ye have been vouchsafed but little”.

The meaning of the verse 17:85

And they (that is, the Jews) will question you O Muhammad, concerning the Spirit, from which the body receives life. Say, to them: ‘the Spirit is of the marvels of my Lord; the Spirit is of the command of my Lord, that is, it belongs to His knowledge, about which you know not. And of knowledge you have not been given except a little’, relative to His knowledge, exalted be He.

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The meanings of verse 37:149

Before Islam, the ignorant disbelievers among Arabs used to hate having female girls and they preferred having sons, also, they used to kill their female because they think that it is shameful to have females and it is an honor to have sons. On the other hand, they claim that the Angels are God's daughters! The verse says: So ask the disbelievers (O Muhammad): are daughters to be for your Lord, after their claim that the angels were God’s daughters, while sons are to be for them? Do you wish for Allah what you do not wish for yourselves? "That is to say, the best (as they think) are exclusively theirs?

The meanings of verse 37:150

Or did Allah create the angels females as you claim while they were witnesses to the act of Allah's creation? Were they present thereof that they might then say such a thing?

The meanings of verse 37:151

Lo! It is indeed out of their [own] mendacity, their [own] lies, it is of their falsehood) it is due to their denial that they say,

The meanings of verse 37:152

God has begotten’, for they claimed the angels are Allah's daughters. And verily they are liars, in what they say.

The meanings of verse 37:153

And again of their falsehood, Has Allah preferred daughters to sons?

The meanings of verse 37:154

What is wrong with you? How do you judge? It means that you consider having female an evil and shameful although you choose for Allah what you would not accept for yourselves,

The meanings of verse 37:155

Will you not then remember? Will you not then reflect? Will you not take heed from what you say? That Allah, glory be to Him, is exalted above having a child?

The meanings of verse 37:156

Or do you have a clear warrant, a Scripture stating that the angels are Allah's daughters? Do you have a plain definitive proof that God has a child?

The meanings of verse 37:157

Allah said: then produce your scripture, and show Me that the angels are Allah's daughters in it, if you are being truthful, about this statement of yours.

The meanings of verse 37:158

And the disbelievers have set up between Allah, exalted be He, and the angels a kinship, by saying that they are God’s daughters, while the angels certainly know that the disbelievers shall indeed be arraigned, into the Eternal Fire, to be chastised therein.

It is also said that this verse was revealed about the dualists who claimed that Satan is Allah's partner in that Allah created the good things while Satan created the evil ones; However, the angels know well that the disbelievers who claim that will be brought before Allah and will be chastised in the Eternal Hell.

The meanings of verse 37:159

Glorified be Allah, He exonerates Himself from the lies they attribute unto Him. He is exalted, above what they attribute, to Him in the way of His having a child or a partner.

===============================

Verses 17:85 and 37:149-159 of the Noble Quran in one translation (YUSUFALI):

Verse17:85 (YUSUFALI Translation):

they ask thee concerning the spirit (of inspiration). say: "the spirit (cometh) by command of my lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (o men!)"

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Verses 37:149-159 (YUSUFALI Translation):

Verse 37:149

Now ask them their opinion: is it that thy lord has (only) daughters, and they have sons?-

Verse 37:150

Or that we created the angels female, and they are witnesses (thereto)?

Verse 37:151

Is it not that they say, from their own invention,

Verse 37:152

"Allah has begotten children"? but they are liars!

Verse 37:153

Did he (then) choose daughters rather than sons?

Verse 37:154

What is the matter with you? how judge ye?

Verse 37:155

Will ye not then receive admonition?

Verse 37:156

Or have ye an authority manifest?

Verse 37:157

Then bring ye your book (of authority) if ye be truthful!

Verse 37:158

And they have invented a blood-relationship between him and the angels: but the angels know (quite well) that they have indeed to appear (before his judgment-seat)!

Verse 37:159

Glory to Allah! (he is free) from the things they ascribe (to him)!

========================

Back to my question to the smart and interested reader:

Is the Quran quoted from the Bible?

Professor Dr. Ibrahim Khalil Prof. of Clinical and Chemical Pathology, Head of Clinical Microbiology and Infection Control Unit, Ain-Shams University. Cairo, Egypt. And, President of The Egyptian Society of Inventors. Member of the Egyption union of Writers

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